Stark Wreck

[John W. Kennedy]

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

"Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning", the one you saw, is actually the seventh in the series, but it is vastly more popular than the others. In fact, it is arguably the most successful movie ever made in Finland.

[Blair Leatherwood]

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

Blair

[Elko T]

Post by Blair Leatherwood

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a
point of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

Hmmm. It /was/ part of the Russian Empire for over 100 years, and the second
largest religious denomination is the Eastern Orthodox. As for the rest, true.

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

That depends on where one studied geography. We had the same discussion in
rec.sport.soccer. Some learn that the Scandinavian peninsula starts up at the
north kink. I, however, learned it as the "Scandinavian Tiger". (You can picture
it as a big cat form, Finland and parts of Russia being the hind legs and the tail.)

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

What about Georgia, then? :)

[Nicole Massey]

Post by Elko T

Post by Blair Leatherwood

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point
of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

Hmmm. It /was/ part of the Russian Empire for over 100 years, and the
second largest religious denomination is the Eastern Orthodox. As for the
rest, true.

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

That depends on where one studied geography. We had the same discussion
in rec.sport.soccer. Some learn that the Scandinavian peninsula starts up
at the north kink. I, however, learned it as the "Scandinavian Tiger".
(You can picture it as a big cat form, Finland and parts of Russia being
the hind legs and the tail.)

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language in
which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

What about Georgia, then? :)

And Wales, too. There's the old joke about a Wheel of Fortune puzzle where
the topic is Welsh place names and the contestant loses control of the wheel
because he asks to buy a vowel.

[Kurt Ullman]

Post by Nicole Massey
And Wales, too. There's the old joke about a Wheel of Fortune puzzle where
the topic is Welsh place names and the contestant loses control of the wheel
because he asks to buy a vowel.

I watched the Finnish version of WHeel a few years ago. That was a
rather strange occurance.

[Joe Chicago]

Thanks for all the replies.

I was guessing on the language, never having heard Finnish before.

All I know about Finnish is that it is supposedly highly inflected, with 14 cases, which are a function of things like the gender of the person you're talking to.

Did used to know a guy who did Finnish genealogies in Salt Lake City.

mannerism were really quite good, except that they missed the fact that Bester always held one hand in a fist, from a trauma earlier in his life covered by one of the "canonical" works of fiction.



- Joe Chicasgo

[Virgo Pärna]

Post by Joe Chicago
All I know about Finnish is that it is supposedly highly inflected, with 14 cases,

15, not 14. Estonian has 14 cases.

Post by Joe Chicago
which are a function of things like the gender of the person you're talking to.

What gender? Gender is irrelevant.

[Joe Osman]

My Russian teacher in college told us that no one speaks Finnish. The Finns make it up as thay go along.


Joe

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Joe Chicago <***@mac.com>

Thanks for all the replies.

I was guessing on the language, never having heard Finnish before.

All I know about Finnish is that it is supposedly highly inflected, with 14
cases, which are a function of things like the gender of the person you're
talking to.

Did used to know a guy who did Finnish genealogies in Salt Lake City.

mannerism were really quite good, except that they missed the fact that Bester
always held one hand in a fist, from a trauma earlier in his life covered by
one of the "canonical" works of fiction.



- Joe Chicasgo

[Virgo P?rna]

Post by Joe Chicago
All I know about Finnish is that it is supposedly highly inflected, with 14

15. Estonian has 14.

Post by Joe Chicago
cases, which are a function of things like the gender of the person you're
talking to.

Gender? Cases got nothing to do with gender - they are replacements for
prepositions and postpositions.

[John W Kennedy]

Post by Virgo P?rna

Post by Joe Chicago
All I know about Finnish is that it is supposedly highly inflected, with 14

15. Estonian has 14.

Post by Joe Chicago
cases, which are a function of things like the gender of the person you're
talking to.

Gender? Cases got nothing to do with gender - they are replacements for
prepositions and postpositions.

The word "postposition" is not used in traditional English grammar, so
most English monoglots are unacquainted with it.

[Joe Osman]

Reminds me of the joke where Vanna White is asked her favorite consonant to which she replies "Australia".

Joe

[Jeffrey Kaplan]

Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Blair Leatherwood

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

I beg to differ. Finland had, for a while, the world's top mobile
phone maker. Also some of THE best snow tires on the planet.

Then there's this:

[Henrik Herranen]

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

Finnish is the language with perhaps the largest percentage of vowels
of any written language, so I don't understand what you are trying to
say. It's the completely unrelated Slavic languages that can have up
to 5-6 consonants in a row.


But yes, "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning" is very funny and highly
recommended material for Star Trek and/or Babylon 5 fans. It's funny
and entertaining.

(One of the little tidbits of how well though-out the film is:
both Mr. Fukov (parody of Mr. Chekov from Star Trek) and Fester-Bester
(Bester from B5) are portrayed by the same guy, Janos Honkanen. As we
all know, ST's Chekov and B5's Bester are portrayed by the same guy,
Walter Koenig. Got a big chuckle when I realized why Janos had a
double role.

Kind regards,
- Henrik

[Amy Guskin]

Post by Henrik Herranen

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

Finnish is the language with perhaps the largest percentage of vowels
of any written language, so I don't understand what you are trying to
say. It's the completely unrelated Slavic languages that can have up
to 5-6 consonants in a row.
But yes, "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning" is very funny and highly
recommended material for Star Trek and/or Babylon 5 fans. It's funny
and entertaining.
both Mr. Fukov (parody of Mr. Chekov from Star Trek) and Fester-Bester
(Bester from B5) are portrayed by the same guy, Janos Honkanen. As we
all know, ST's Chekov and B5's Bester are portrayed by the same guy,
Walter Koenig. Got a big chuckle when I realized why Janos had a
double role. <<

That's a great tip. I haven't watched this in years, but this is a reason to
go back and revisit it. Cute!


Amy

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

Post by Blair Leatherwood

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a
point of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

Hmmm. It /was/ part of the Russian Empire for over 100 years, and the second

largest religious denomination is the Eastern Orthodox. As for the rest, true.

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

That depends on where one studied geography. We had the same discussion in
rec.sport.soccer. Some learn that the Scandinavian peninsula starts up at the
north kink. I, however, learned it as the "Scandinavian Tiger". (You can
picture
it as a big cat form, Finland and parts of Russia being the hind legs and the
tail.)

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

What about Georgia, then? :)

[Adam H. Kerman]

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point
of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

Finland was part of Sweden for seven centuries, and then part of Russia for
around a century till the Russian Revolution. Bolshevics tried to keep
Finland in Russia but didn't succeed, due in part to German support for
independence. During WWII, Finland fought Russia for several years.

Post-war, Finland secured its independence with a tenuous relationship with
Soviet Union in which they avoided pursuing certain aspects of foreign
relations expected to displease Russia. Obviously, Finland never joined NATO,
which undoubtably would have been considered provocative enough by Russia
that it would have conquered it again.

I disagree with some of your remarks about Finland's independence.

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point
of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

Finland was part of Sweden for seven centuries, and then part of Russia for
around a century till the Russian Revolution. Bolshevics tried to keep
Finland in Russia but didn't succeed, due in part to German support for
independence. During WWII, Finland fought Russia for several years.

Post-war, Finland secured its independence with a tenuous relationship with
Soviet Union in which they avoided pursuing certain aspects of foreign
relations expected to displease Russia. Obviously, Finland never joined NATO,
which undoubtably would have been considered provocative enough by Russia
that it would have conquered it again.

I disagree with some of your remarks about Finland's independence.

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

Post by Elko T

Post by Blair Leatherwood

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point
of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

Hmmm. It /was/ part of the Russian Empire for over 100 years, and the
second largest religious denomination is the Eastern Orthodox. As for the
rest, true.

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

That depends on where one studied geography. We had the same discussion
in rec.sport.soccer. Some learn that the Scandinavian peninsula starts up
at the north kink. I, however, learned it as the "Scandinavian Tiger".
(You can picture it as a big cat form, Finland and parts of Russia being
the hind legs and the tail.)

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language in
which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

What about Georgia, then? :)

And Wales, too. There's the old joke about a Wheel of Fortune puzzle where
the topic is Welsh place names and the contestant loses control of the wheel
because he asks to buy a vowel.

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

Post by Nicole Massey
And Wales, too. There's the old joke about a Wheel of Fortune puzzle where
the topic is Welsh place names and the contestant loses control of the wheel
because he asks to buy a vowel.

I watched the Finnish version of WHeel a few years ago. That was a
rather strange occurance.

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

Post by Henrik Herranen

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

Finnish is the language with perhaps the largest percentage of vowels
of any written language, so I don't understand what you are trying to
say. It's the completely unrelated Slavic languages that can have up
to 5-6 consonants in a row.
But yes, "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning" is very funny and highly
recommended material for Star Trek and/or Babylon 5 fans. It's funny
and entertaining.
both Mr. Fukov (parody of Mr. Chekov from Star Trek) and Fester-Bester
(Bester from B5) are portrayed by the same guy, Janos Honkanen. As we
all know, ST's Chekov and B5's Bester are portrayed by the same guy,
Walter Koenig. Got a big chuckle when I realized why Janos had a
double role. <<

That's a great tip. I haven't watched this in years, but this is a reason to
go back and revisit it. Cute!


Amy

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

From: Jeffrey Kaplan <***@gordol.org>

Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Blair Leatherwood

Post by Blair Leatherwood
Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

I beg to differ. Finland had, for a while, the world's top mobile
phone maker. Also some of THE best snow tires on the planet.

Then there's this:

http://youtu.be/YNr3nK_bvKQ

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

Post by John W. Kennedy

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European spoof on

both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point of having
Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Post by John W. Kennedy
Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally regarded as

"Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine Empire, is not Eastern
Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is not Slavic, and was never a
component or satellite of the Soviet Union.
Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

Blair

[n***@news.bbs.geek.nz]

I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European spoof on

both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point of having
Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally regarded as
"Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine Empire, is not Eastern
Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is not Slavic, and was never a
component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

"Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning", the one you saw, is actually the seventh in
the series, but it is vastly more popular than the others. In fact, it is
arguably the most successful movie ever made in Finland.